Richard Stallman rms@gnu.org writes:

Are you the right person to report this to?

François forwarded this mail to translation@iro.umontreal.ca. To identify resposible parties you can use gettext from the command line:

LANGUAGE=fr TEXTDOMAIN=text-utils gettext tar "" | grep ^Language-Team Language-Team: French traduc@traduc.org

LANGUAGE=fr TEXTDOMAIN=text-utils gettext tar "" | grep ^Last-Translator Last-Translator: Michel Robitaille robitail@IRO.UMontreal.CA

Thanks for the report -- forwarded now to the french translation team.

From: Martin Michlmayr tbm@cyrius.com Subject: french translation: libre vs gratuit To: rms@gnu.org Cc: loic@gnu.org Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 20:23:34 +0200

Hi RMS,

let's try this again. I mailed you about a problem in the French translation of some GNU tools and you reponded saying that "This is a serious problem", asked for more information; I sent more information but you never responded.

Debian bug #52136 claims that the French translation of glibc translates "free software" into "logiciel gratuit", instead of "logicial libre". (It is now fixed in glibc.)

However, I noticed that this problem does not only exist in glibc, but other GNU tools as well. So far, I have found a wrong translation in shellutils (#95343), tar (#95344), grep (#95349) and sharutils.

Translations are done by po/<lang>.po files. If you look, for example, at tar, you will see:

tbm@fisch: cd tar-1.13.19/ tbm@fisch: grep -4 free po/fr.po "Copyright © 1995, 1996, 1997 Free Software Foundation, Inc.\n"

#: tests/genfile.c:156 msgid "" "This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO\n" "warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.\n" msgstr "" "Ce logiciel est gratuit; voir les sources pour les conditions de\n" "reproduction. AUCUNE garantie n'est donnée; tant pour des raisons\n"

It says "Ce logiciel est gratuit", instead of "... libre".

I checked a few GNU tools, but not all yet; also, I dont know if other languages have translation problems.

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Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 20:30:15 +0200 From: Martin Michlmayr tbm@cyrius.com To: rms@gnu.org Cc: loic@gnu.org Subject: Re: french translation: libre vs gratuit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: 20010726202334.A29123@fisch.cyrius.com; from tbm@cyrius.com on Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 08:23:34PM +0200

• tbm tbm@cyrius.com [20010726 20:23]:

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other GNU tools as well. So far, I have found a wrong translation in shellutils (#95343), tar (#95344), grep (#95349) and sharutils.

Sorry, not sharutils, but fileutils. make as well.